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	<title>Comments on: What think experts about UML and modeling?</title>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://www.empowertec.de/blog/2007/04/03/what-think-experts-about-uml-and-modeling/comment-page-1/#comment-784</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Rick,

thanks for taking the time to answer. The best place to find people using the UML actively is on product related forums, e.g. at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=UMLPRO&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sparx Systems&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.gentleware.com/viewforum.php?f=7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gentleware&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=430&amp;start=0&amp;thRange=15&amp;cat=24&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IBM Rational&lt;/a&gt;.
There&#039;s also the book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Real-Life-MDA-Business-Problems-Architecture/dp/0123705924/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-6754780-2434528?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1191868662&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Real-Life MDA&lt;/a&gt; from Morgan Kaufman that presents 6 real MDA projects ().
But I agree that UML software often ends as &quot;Shelfware&quot; and that it is hard to find companies and/or projects that use the UML seriously. And I&#039;m always puzzled by the number of UML tools - commercial or free. It&#039;s hard to believe that they all have a profitable business in this (relative) niche.

Best regards,
Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Rick,</p>
<p>thanks for taking the time to answer. The best place to find people using the UML actively is on product related forums, e.g. at <a href="http://www.sparxsystems.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=UMLPRO" rel="nofollow">Sparx Systems</a>, <a href="http://forum.gentleware.com/viewforum.php?f=7" rel="nofollow">Gentleware</a> or <a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_forum.jsp?forum=430&#038;start=0&#038;thRange=15&#038;cat=24" rel="nofollow">IBM Rational</a>.<br />
There&#8217;s also the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Real-Life-MDA-Business-Problems-Architecture/dp/0123705924/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-6754780-2434528?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1191868662&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Real-Life MDA</a> from Morgan Kaufman that presents 6 real MDA projects ().<br />
But I agree that UML software often ends as &#8220;Shelfware&#8221; and that it is hard to find companies and/or projects that use the UML seriously. And I&#8217;m always puzzled by the number of UML tools &#8211; commercial or free. It&#8217;s hard to believe that they all have a profitable business in this (relative) niche.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.empowertec.de/blog/2007/04/03/what-think-experts-about-uml-and-modeling/comment-page-1/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my opinion-- I&#039;ve worked in two fairly large shops, both of which use very little UML.  I believe it&#039;s the ease-of-use factor-- frankly, quick communication usually happens at a whiteboard (often using UML notations), but it ends up being Word docs for the long-term stuff.  I&#039;d like to know the real-world acceptance rate....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my opinion&#8211; I&#8217;ve worked in two fairly large shops, both of which use very little UML.  I believe it&#8217;s the ease-of-use factor&#8211; frankly, quick communication usually happens at a whiteboard (often using UML notations), but it ends up being Word docs for the long-term stuff.  I&#8217;d like to know the real-world acceptance rate&#8230;.</p>
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